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AntMat
Advanced Member
France
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 Posted - 14 November 2006 : 18:55:32
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sophieamelia is definitely going on the '07 Mongol Rally. A number of our esteemed members have already offered help (and money!) and I know that TP and VFC are advising her on the on road driving aspect.
We are going to be preparing the car down here (definitely a LHD) but choice not yet finally made. It will have to survive about 15,000 kms of pretty rough roads.
If anybody thinks that they can help the "Parker's" entry in any way or form, please let me know.
The route selected will be announced by the end of this month.
Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri,
Quo me ***que rapit tempestas, deferor hospes.
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chrispbrown2255
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
3435 Posts |
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BSCat
Advanced Member
18217 Posts |
Posted - 14 November 2006 : 20:03:12
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I would like to tag along in the Agila at the back there somewhere. Like to know more though. Like how much it all costs, how long it all takes. Do I get my car back at the end... who is sophieamelia
CATMAN drives..... feles **** vehere
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justg
Moderator
United Kingdom
10110 Posts |
Posted - 14 November 2006 : 20:03:53
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I know a certain someone that will plot there progress on a map for us.
New Loonie has 140Bhp and does 0-60 quicker than you think as this is a beast with 188Nm of Torque |
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A - W
Administrator
Guinea-Bissau
10218 Posts |
Posted - 15 November 2006 : 09:05:25
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Good luck to sophieamelia and with such a top team around her she should make it. 
Are you not going then AM?
 www.advanced-driving.co.uk
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Panther1
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1542 Posts |
Posted - 15 November 2006 : 09:17:47
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Originally posted by AntMat
If anybody thinks that they can help the "Parker's" entry in any way or form, please let me know.
Good luck sophieamelia.
Ant, In what way could we help?
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A - W
Administrator
Guinea-Bissau
10218 Posts |
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Panther1
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1542 Posts |
Posted - 15 November 2006 : 09:56:07
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quote:
Originally posted by A - W
You could be the support vehicle.
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vanfancooler
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6125 Posts |
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sophieamelia
New Member
85 Posts |
Posted - 15 November 2006 : 14:04:36
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Hello guys :)
Only spoke to Ant today and realised that this new thread was here! I had a look a Twingo which is in contention on ebay and think its great :) but beyond the budget (If it doesn't shoot up in price in the last day) perhaps someone on Parkers might have / know of someone who could lend a trailer? (don't know if you don't ask - even though its a long shot)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300048793226&fromMakeTrack=true
and do you think they absolutely mean a trailer not towing? In anycase...just thought I'd say that I approve - it looks dinky and its a LGD, oh and bigger engine means more money to charity - thats the rules.
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sophieamelia
New Member
85 Posts |
Posted - 15 November 2006 : 14:06:23
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Actually what I meant to say is that its not beyond the budget - but transporting it to wales would be!
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hitman
Advanced Member
11576 Posts |
Posted - 15 November 2006 : 15:55:37
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2CV
Is that not the beastie that you need for such a treck, lots of ground clearance, field stripable, room for 2 plus a few sheep and only 650cc.
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sophieamelia
New Member
85 Posts |
Posted - 15 November 2006 : 16:31:25
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I think a few of those have done the rally. Looking for a Left hand drive tho at the mo which cuts down on the options a lot!
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justg
Moderator
United Kingdom
10110 Posts |
Posted - 15 November 2006 : 16:40:34
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sophieamelia
I think the electronics are going to be the Achilles heel on this project car, not to mention the reliability issues when out on the rally.
I think you best option is to return to a basic car with basic mechanics that are easily repairable at the roadside/service area like a 1.0L nova also isn’t the Twingo over the 1000cc limit or is a 1.2 acceptable?
If so
Nova
EDIT: I might be able to obtain an ‘A’ frame and a van with a tow ball but will need warning to see if it is available.
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AntMat
Advanced Member
France
22658 Posts |
Posted - 15 November 2006 : 17:46:28
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Twingo is a non-runner as the car is a semi-auto and the 'box ECU is doubtful - even when running properly!
If any one has any ideas or knows of a 1.0 litre LHD let us know! All help gratefully received.
I think that justg is correct about a Nova - bits are cheap and uprated suspension parts not hard to come by. Even an early Renault 5 (with carb) is on the cards. If a Micra should happen along, all the better.
If the car is going to be of any use in Mongolia (when left behind) the fewer electonics it has the better!
Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri,
Quo me ***que rapit tempestas, deferor hospes.
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justg
Moderator
United Kingdom
10110 Posts |
Posted - 15 November 2006 : 17:58:59
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I just negotiated a deal on a Nova for £150 only to find out that it is a 1196 cc
Which Micra are you after the square one or the bubble?
It could also be worth a scout phoning some of the main dealers to see what part exchanges they have as it is sometime more beneficial for them to give it away for very little than to dispose in a more environmentally friendly way.
New Loonie has 140Bhp and does 0-60 quicker than you think as this is a beastwith 188Nm of Torque |
Edited by - justg on 15 November 2006 18:19:57 |
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BSCat
Advanced Member
18217 Posts |
Posted - 15 November 2006 : 18:11:41
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Found a couple for you. The Pug does look in good nick too.
BASEL Switzerland
Typ Panda 1000 S i.e.
Verkaufspreis CHF 850.00
EUR 533.00
Kilometerstand 148000 KM
Erstzulassung 04.1992
letzte MFK 12.2004
Farbe rot
Polster stoff
Leistung 45 PS / 33 KW
Aufbauart Limousine
Getriebeart Schaltgetriebe
Treibstoff Benzin bleifrei
Cylinder 4
Hubraum 999 ccm
Anzahl Sitze 5
Anzahl Türen 3
Typenscheinnummer 1F3059
Serviceheft Ja
Fahrzeug ID 102100943
CHUR Switzerland
Typ 106 1.0 XN
Verkaufspreis CHF 1'000.00
EUR 629.00
Kilometerstand 185000 KM
Erstzulassung 09.1993
letzte MFK 09.2004
Farbe grün
Polster -
Leistung 50 PS / 37 KW
Aufbauart Limousine
Getriebeart Manual
Treibstoff Benzin bleifrei
Cylinder 4
Hubraum 954 ccm
Anzahl Sitze 5
Anzahl Türen 5
Typenscheinnummer 1P2153
Serviceheft Ja
Fahrzeug ID 102060013
CATMAN drives..... feles **** vehere
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nooner
Senior Member
United Kingdom
1315 Posts |
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vanfancooler
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6125 Posts |
Posted - 15 November 2006 : 18:40:41
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""I think that justg is correct about a Nova - bits are cheap and uprated suspension parts not hard to come by. Even an early Renault 5 (with carb) is on the cards. If a Micra should happen along, all the better.""
Any of you near a Nissan dealer needing publicity? Or Nissan UK?
Prepared to have some publicity if they donate a used Micra to Sophie - Rally Prepared, with Antmats help - Left hand drive if needed.?
If Factory support is prohibited ( I would expect) is dealer support?
Thoughts/Comments???
VFC.
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Mr Nice Guy
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
12942 Posts |
Posted - 15 November 2006 : 21:56:31
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Driving through Kazakhstan? NIIIIIIICE.
sorry.
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100.5bhp @ 11,500rpm, driving 180kgs through the rear wheel, no roof and the open road - life's f***ing great. |
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sophieamelia
New Member
85 Posts |
Posted - 16 November 2006 : 14:31:59
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So do you reckon that if a trailer or a form or transport did become available for the semi-automatic Twingo (with the fully reclining seats) it would be a good idea? I thought the semi automatic wasn't going to be such a problem? I'm not too clear on what impact the ECU is going to have on things. But is it really a definite non runner? (it hasn't gone up in price from £150...)
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sophieamelia
New Member
85 Posts |
Posted - 16 November 2006 : 14:40:24
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Also I'll clear up the issue of the engine size. It is SUPPOSED to be 1,000cc or less and when entering the rally there is a £1000 charity donation. However quite a few people enter the rally with slightly bigger engines and a larger charity contribution matches the engine size - so it would be £1,200 for a 1.2. So there is some flexibility. If a vehicle is really novel they can have any engine size they want without paying extra. This last year there was apparently a he**** that took part in the rally! :)
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AntMat
Advanced Member
France
22658 Posts |
Posted - 16 November 2006 : 18:03:24
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sophieamelia
Even if the Twingo 'box were OK I think it would be too risky. Renault auto and semi-auto boxes can be pigs when it comes to the electronics.
Something will crop up - I am inclined towards an early 5 as well as a small Far Eastern jobbie. 5 parts are very plentiful and cheap, and 5s will go on until the body falls off! You'll get damp in the process too!
Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri,
Quo me ***que rapit tempestas, deferor hospes.
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BSCat
Advanced Member
18217 Posts |
Posted - 16 November 2006 : 19:09:17
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What do you get from the organizers. Seems to be for charity all well and good but if you are, all broken down in Kazakhstan and Borat's sister attacks you what protection do the organizers give you.
CATMAN drives..... feles **** vehere
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vanfancooler
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6125 Posts |
Posted - 16 November 2006 : 19:52:46
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About the same protection as we get here from Uncle Tony and all the other *****s in Westminster - probably more, from poor people who know how it feels to be hungry and to offer hospitality and share the little they have with strangers
VFC.
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justg
Moderator
United Kingdom
10110 Posts |
Posted - 16 November 2006 : 20:26:15
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"Our back up team isn't just small, it doesn't exist. If you come on the Mongol Rally, you're relying on yourself. It's an adventure not a petting zoo so we can in no way guarantee your arrival at the destination, or your safety."
New Loonie has 140Bhp and does 0-60 quicker than you think as this is a beastwith 188Nm of Torque |
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AntMat
Advanced Member
France
22658 Posts |
Posted - 16 November 2006 : 20:28:23
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quote:
Originally posted by BSCat
What do you get from the organizers. Seems to be for charity all well and good but if you are, all broken down in Kazakhstan and Borat's sister attacks you what protection do the organizers give you.
CATMAN drives..... feles **** vehere
Take the Agila and ride shotgun.
Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri,
Quo me ***que rapit tempestas, deferor hospes.
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BSCat
Advanced Member
18217 Posts |
Posted - 16 November 2006 : 20:38:38
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That's I would like to do. You'll have to mail me the details, to get the time off work and stuff. I might go a week or so with you then a week or so back again. Don't have to reach Mongolia, me.
Kazakhstan and Borat's sister would probably be enough for me.
CATMAN drives..... feles **** vehere
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sophieamelia
New Member
85 Posts |
Posted - 22 November 2006 : 12:18:02
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I have no got my new driving partner :) called Helen and based in London. Still looking for a car - and i believe we have a resolution to have one by the end of the year so hopefully something shall emerge! BSCat - go for it if you feel like rising to the challenge! You might have a bit of a hassle trying to sort out the visa, etc though!
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A - W
Administrator
Guinea-Bissau
10218 Posts |
Posted - 22 November 2006 : 13:34:08
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What about an AX?
1995 CITROEN AX 1.0 Elation 5dr Special Editions
Manual, 96,000 miles, mot 30/4/07 taxed 28/2/07 1 owner metalic paint very reliable runabout. £300. ono
www.advanced-driving.co.uk
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justg
Moderator
United Kingdom
10110 Posts |
Posted - 22 November 2006 : 15:54:15
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I am able to get my hands on a Nova for £50 after some haggling
New Loonie has 140Bhp and does 0-60 quicker than you think as this is a beastwith 188Nm of Torque |
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sophieamelia
New Member
85 Posts |
Posted - 27 November 2006 : 16:17:24
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Well both sounds good to me....I think Ant will be back on the forum in a few days again and decision making for me on the car front. I had a suggestion this wknd to approach Nissan UK and see if they wouldn't just sponser me but give me some free parts for converting a right to left (if i could find someone to do it). That gives me more of a chance of getting my hands on the micra but I guess time might be getting a bit short for that now..
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justg
Moderator
United Kingdom
10110 Posts |
Posted - 27 November 2006 : 17:39:04
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Originally posted by sophieamelia
Well both sounds good to me....I think Ant will be back on the forum in a few days again and decision making for me on the car front. I had a suggestion this wknd to approach Nissan UK and see if they wouldn't just sponser me but give me some free parts for converting a right to left (if i could find someone to do it). That gives me more of a chance of getting my hands on the micra but I guess time might be getting a bit short for that now..
He will be back on the 2nd Dec.
New Loonie has 140Bhp and does 0-60 quicker than you think as this is a beastwith 188Nm of Torque
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~
Moderator
South Sandwich Islands
8698 Posts |
Posted - 29 November 2006 : 17:00:32
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What sort of help is needed?
Maybe Sophie or Ant when hes back could list a few items or services (oo-err) that are needed?
For instance im sure i could lay my hands on a laptop to loan for the duration of the trip if one was needed
Cheers
Paul
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justg
Moderator
United Kingdom
10110 Posts |
Posted - 29 November 2006 : 18:13:40
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Have you got one that I could loan forever So I can keep Daniel off mine 
New Loonie has 140Bhp and does 0-60 quicker than you think as this is a beastwith 188Nm of Torque
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vanfancooler
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
6125 Posts |
Posted - 29 November 2006 : 18:57:09
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Paul,
I suggested to Antmat, weeks ago, that we could have some kind of 'trace' on Sophies' progress that could be followed on Parkers - I think he or she told me that laptops were not permitted on the drive? ...she is going through some 'sensitive' areas.
Nice thought though...do you have any contact with a marketing brain in Emap who could make some capital from this?
VFC.
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Originally posted by ~
What sort of help is needed?
Maybe Sophie or Ant when hes back could list a few items or services (oo-err) that are needed?
For instance im sure i could lay my hands on a laptop to loan for the duration of the trip if one was needed
Cheers
Paul
Dont put off till tomorrow what you can delegate today!
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Moderator
South Sandwich Islands
8698 Posts |
Posted - 29 November 2006 : 19:03:35
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Unfortunately no contacts within Emap VFC (Emap have a marketing brain )
Was just a thought about the laptop or possibly an Ipaq coupled with Sat Nav which i have sat on my desk at the moment?
Not sure what the policies are on taking any electronic gear through borders, my boss had a problem going through Croatia / Bosnia etc with his laptop in the boot - eventually i think he "bought insurance"
Cheers
Paul
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sophieamelia
New Member
85 Posts |
Posted - 04 December 2006 : 13:42:34
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Hello!
I'm back from a few days off work - bliss! I've finally just about summarised all the most important info from the FO from all countries along all the possible routes. Its taken a while. Turns out that every route has at least one country where 'car crime is rife' and that everything should be hidden or removed - the main problem countries being Bulgaria (where the whole car will probably disappear unless we are in it and even then theres the car jackings), Lithuania and Ukraine. So as we can't avoid all of them and there are obviously other problem countries I wouldn't feel comfortable being 'lent' anything valuable! What would probably be a good idea is trying to fix up one of those sheets that can be drawn across the inside of the car so people can't see whats underneath it in the car (I have no idea what its called and you probably won't guess what I'm jabbering about), but also maybe some window blinds and a decent car lock.
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dan_r
Senior Member
Ukraine
1706 Posts |
Posted - 04 December 2006 : 15:20:50
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'Problem countries'
Lithuania: Really pulled itself up lately, modernising and lower crime rates than a decade ago.
Bulgaria: As Lithuania, not as bad as you might think.
Ukraine: Yep, keep your doors locked.
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A - W
Administrator
Guinea-Bissau
10218 Posts |
Posted - 13 December 2006 : 10:26:43
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Biggest problem according to this weeks Fifth gear was getting decent fuel for the journey.
Bored?
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AntMat
Advanced Member
France
22658 Posts |
Posted - 13 December 2006 : 11:31:37
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....no problem! My contact at Nissan UK has said that suitable parts will be supp**** for a K ll l litre engine as soon as the route has been selected - Nissan has all the info re. octane ratings so at least a suitable low compression head gasket will be supp****.
We still need help so if any one can act as:
Insurance consultant
Travel consultant
Map consultant
Clothing consultant
Any other consultant you can think of (!)
please post ASAP!
Nullius addictus iurare in verba magistri,
Quo me ***que rapit tempestas, deferor hospes.
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Mongol Rally 2007
